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Started by d_goddard, May 17, 2007, 10:46 AM NHFT

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d_goddard

Written by a recent NH State Rep.
http://billysreward.tomalciere.com/title.html

Worth reading, from start to finish.
QuoteA 20-year-old Negro man emerged, wearing a black leather jacket. "Do you realize what we stopped you for?" the cop asked.
    "Driving while black?" the driver guessed.
    The other cop told a Negro woman on the passenger side, "Step out of the car, too."
    "What's the matter?" she wondered.
    "What have you got in your pocketbook?" the cop queried.
    "Well, personal belongings." she said.
    "Open it up." the cop ordered.
    "No, I will not." she replied, shocked.
    "Place your hands on the car." the cop said.
    "No I will not. I'm not under arrest. I know my constitutional rights!" she replied.

Dreepa

From his campaign website:
http://tomalciere.us/index.html
Quote
ATTENTION REPORTERS: Tom Alciere will NOT tolerate uninvited reporters at his residence and all such reporters and their news media will be blacklisted. WNDS-TV Derry is still blacklisted for pulling such a stunt in 2004 when I was running for the U.S. Senate.
Reporters are encouraged to read my books, Billy's Reward and Billy's Legacy

District 13 Republicans: Dennis Hogan is running against me as a write-in in the Republican Primary. You may contact Hogan at dchogan@yahoo.com or 1-603-883-3485 to pose this important issues question: Do you want to call off the War on Drugs now, or do you still want to wait until more cops get themselves killed in action first?

d_goddard

Quote from: Dreepa on May 17, 2007, 10:54 AM NHFT
From his campaign website:
Quote
Do you want to call off the War on Drugs now, or do you still want to wait until more cops get themselves killed in action first?
Now that's my kinda Republican!

KBCraig

Quote from: d_goddard on May 17, 2007, 10:46 AM NHFT
Worth reading, from start to finish.

If you like really bad porn, that is.

d_goddard

#4
Quote from: KBCraig on May 17, 2007, 12:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: d_goddard on May 17, 2007, 10:46 AM NHFT
Worth reading, from start to finish.
If you like really bad porn, that is.
Reading it for porn is like reading the Bible for blood and guts.
Sure, some people get smited or stoned or crucified, but it's not really a Halloween flick.

Reading it as an amateur, unpolished, probably hastily-written story about morality and intentionally testing boundaries is more interesting.

Realizing that the person who wrote it was an elected NH State Rep is what's really worth your time.

http://tomalciere.com/mytry.html
Quote from: Tom Alciere
If the goons don't want their guts blown apart all over the drug dealer's carpet, they're free to get a job and work for a living, instead of waging the politicians' War on Drugs [...]
Maybe the next freedom fighter who infiltrates the enemy's legislature will be smarter, and think faster, than me. [...]
Please consider running for the New Hampshire House of Representatives. [...]
There may be other infiltrators who join you.

41mag

Wasn't he the guy that got kicked out of the NH LP because he advocated killing cops?

KBCraig

#6
Quote from: d_goddard on May 17, 2007, 01:03 PM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on May 17, 2007, 12:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: d_goddard on May 17, 2007, 10:46 AM NHFT
Worth reading, from start to finish.
If you like really bad porn, that is.
Reading it for porn is like reading the Bible for blood and guts.

I didn't read it for the porn. But once you get past the first page, the substance is thin and hard to find, buried in page after page of Alciere's personal wank-fest.

It's hard to give much credence to a story purporting to be about rights, where the protagonist's little Heaven-on-Earth is populated by slaves that he rapes at will, especially those he rapes in revenge for having spurned him earlier.


QuoteRealizing that the person who wrote it was an elected NH State Rep is what's really worth your time.

I think the "was" is key. I didn't have to read it to recognize his name from the URL. I've read his rants on nh.general and nh.politics. I consider him not only crazy, but dishonest.

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=tom+alciere&num=10&scoring=r&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=nh.*&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=17&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2007&safe=off

Kevin

d_goddard

I'm not saying he's a great candidate who will do a great job in the Senate someday.
He is at least as radical and, shall we say, as non-politically-oriented as some of the "extreme radicals" on NH Underground. The difference being, he bothered to run, and he won.

Kat Kanning

So you're promoting the cop-kill guy?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/ndstue05.htm

N.H. lawmaker advocates killing police
   
Jim Cole, AP
New Hampshire Rep. Tom Alciere, R-Nashua.

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A newly elected Republican state lawmaker has enraged his constituents, party leaders and police by saying he favors killing police officers when they cross the line. One police chief calls him ''a hate-mongering lunatic.''

Tom Alciere, 41, won a seat in the New Hampshire House on his fourth try after a low-key campaign last fall. It wasn't until Sunday that his constituents in Nashua learned of his anti-police views.

Alciere told the Valley News of Lebanon that he loves it when someone kills a police officer: ''It's unfortunate that cops do make it necessary (to kill them) when they're waging a war on drugs, and I view cops as enemy officers.'' He said he is ''too chicken'' to do it himself.

He acknowledges posting his views at Internet chat sites for months, including this 1999 comment: ''Nobody will ever be safe until the last cop is dead.''

State GOP Chairman Steve Duprey said Alciere should renounce his views or resign. But Alciere stood his ground.

''There's no way I'm going to resign,'' he said Tuesday.

Alciere, a married father of one who inspects circuit boards at a factory, said he was arrested for ''petty stuff'' years ago but never went to jail and has no criminal record. He said his anti-police comments are the ''harmless rantings of a private citizen'' that won't influence his legislative work.

''I'm rather embarrassed I voted for this guy,'' said Larry Lesieur, who voted a straight Republican ticket. ''This guy is kooky. I think he definitely misled voters by not revealing these things. In the next election, I'm pretty sure he ain't going to make it.''

New Hampshire has no procedure for recalling state representatives, and legislators said they expect Alciere to serve.

''As despicable as the ideas are, the complaints against him are for his ideas,'' said Peter Burling, the House Democratic leader.

The New Hampshire House is the largest state legislative body in the country and many campaigns don't get much media attention. Alciere admits he didn't advertise his views during his campaign, but denies misleading anyone.

''Nobody asked,'' he said. ''For state representative, you don't have to tell where you stand on the issues.''

He said when police cross the line, citizens have the right to use force to defend themselves: ''Whatever is necessary is necessary. It sounds kind of harsh.''

He is taking plenty of heat. Newmarket police Chief Rodney Collins called Alciere ''a hate-mongering lunatic,'' and Gov. Jeanne Shaheen is among state leaders to denounce him.

Nashua Deputy Police Chief Timothy Hefferan said supervisors warn officers to be careful if they get a call to Alciere's apartment building. He said police usually stay out of politics, but ''I think we'll have to revisit that policy just to enlighten people.''

Alciere's views got some publicity when he wrote letters to newspapers.

In 1997, three days after Carl Drega killed two state troopers, a part-time judge and a newspaper editor in Colebrook, Alciere sent a letter saying that except for the editor, Drega was ''an otherwise innocent cop-killer taking out enemy officers in battle.''

The letter was never published, but became part of the investigation.

A short time later, Epsom police officer Jeremy Charron was murdered. Alciere defended Charron's killer, Gordon Perry, because he said Charron had no right to ask Perry and a companion for identification while they slept in their car.

Alciere said his anger stems from reading and watching television about police misconduct, and his belief that many of the laws the police enforce are unjust.

But during his campaign, he promised simply to oppose any bills that infringe on freedom, and defeated a Democratic incumbent by 55 votes. In his previous runs for the seat, Alciere ran twice as a Libertarian and once as a Democrat.

After the election, Alciere went online and said he was elected by a ''bunch of fat, stupid, ugly old ladies that watch soap operas, play bingo, read tabloids and don't know the metric system.''

''The same lamebrains who vote for politicians who are WRONG finally voted for one who is RIGHT,'' he wrote.

d_goddard

Quote from: Kat Kanning on May 19, 2007, 05:53 AM NHFT
So you're promoting the cop-kill guy?

Now you sound like the Concord Monitor, Kat ::)
Remarks about killing people are never a good idea. He said stupid things... stupid because they were designed to go way over the boundaries of what most people are willing to entertain as ideas.

I think there are a certain group of NHFree posters (powerchuter comes to mind) that relate well to the notion that the police, in enforcing bad laws, are not significantly different from a standing army. That does not mean they plan to actually shoot anybody. I am recalling Mr. Murphy's famous post here about a year ago about how he'd shot first and ask later if someone broke into his home -- badge or no badge.

Alciare is a great negative example for how to win friends and influence people.
His writing is, in my opinion, pretty entertaining -- but then again I also read technical manuals for fun. To each his own.

powerchuter

#10
Quote from: Kat Kanning on May 19, 2007, 05:53 AM NHFT
So you're promoting the cop-kill guy?

Say four or five cops are gang-raping your daughter...and you have a "button" that "gets rid of them forever"...

What are you going to do?

Push it?

Does it matter if they make her unable to have children?
What if she became mentally unstable?
Or committed suicide to escape the memories that terrorized her each night?

I'll give you your right to sacrifice your personal self to the beast...
But I will never give you the "right" to allow the sacrifice of somone else to the beast...

I stand by...while the beast toys with you both...because I know that is your choice and your right...
But I will never stand by while anyone is abused by anyone else...no matter what supposed "authority"...

To be honest, I don't think I could stand idly by even if it was an enemy that was being abused...
So I just hope you aren't submitting to the raping beast while I am around...

Because I'll push the button...

Pull, Point, and Press...
Repeat As Necessary...

powerchuter

Quote from: d_goddard on May 19, 2007, 12:22 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on May 19, 2007, 05:53 AM NHFT
So you're promoting the cop-kill guy?

Now you sound like the Concord Monitor, Kat ::)
Remarks about killing people are never a good idea. He said stupid things... stupid because they were designed to go way over the boundaries of what most people are willing to entertain as ideas.

I think there are a certain group of NHFree posters (powerchuter comes to mind) that relate well to the notion that the police, in enforcing bad laws, are not significantly different from a standing army. That does not mean they plan to actually shoot anybody. I am recalling Mr. Murphy's famous post here about a year ago about how he'd shot first and ask later if someone broke into his home -- badge or no badge.

Alciare is a great negative example for how to win friends and influence people.
His writing is, in my opinion, pretty entertaining -- but then again I also read technical manuals for fun. To each his own.

Thanks Denis!
I am quite honored that my "line in the sand" is so well understood.  I truly hope I never have to use deadly force to repel an attempt to control me against my will and choice...but I will...at my discretion...

Could you please provide a link to the post by Mr. Murphy that you referenced?

powerchuter

#12
Quote from: TomAlciere on May 19, 2007, 07:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: d_goddard on May 19, 2007, 12:22 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on May 19, 2007, 05:53 AM NHFT
So you're promoting the cop-kill guy?
Alciare is a great negative example for how to win friends and influence people.
His writing is, in my opinion, pretty entertaining -- but then again I also read technical manuals for fun. To each his own.

I once was glad nobody asked me why I was laughing so hard. What was so funny?

I was looking at maps of Congressional Districts.  Illinois 4th is good for a laugh,

http://free-immigration-help.com/images/il04_108.gif

as is Maryland's 3rd.

http://free-immigration-help.com/images/md03_108.gif


Tom Alciere

It's CRIMINAL!
Pull, Point, and Press...
Repeat as Necessary...

Actually it shows the illegitimacy of the whole concept of anything other than complete and total self-government...

d_goddard

Quote from: powerchuter on May 19, 2007, 07:36 PM NHFT
Say four or five cops are gang-raping Kira
-1, 'chuter.
That's an image I didn't need.

powerchuter

Quote from: d_goddard on May 19, 2007, 07:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: powerchuter on May 19, 2007, 07:36 PM NHFT
Say four or five cops are gang-raping Kira
-1, 'chuter.
That's an image I didn't need.

Sometimes...
To prove a point...
One must use situations that are extremely distasteful...
But they do happen more often than we know...
It's that "Stanford Prison Experiment" mentality...
There are quite a few societies/religions around the world where they have a "class" culture...
Some "classes" of people think that they are "above" others...
The British are one such group(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class#British)
The Jews are another(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goyim#Modern_usage)

Also...
I think it's strange that the same person who tries to ignore the illegitimate government and their goons...
Would use the word "cop" and "cop-kill guy"...
Doesn't that somehow give some sort of legitimacy to "cop" and the supposed "system" that gives them their supposed mob rule "power" over others?

Why couldn't we just say "aggressor-kill"?

I don't advocate deadly force...
But I'm prepared to use it to defend myself, my friends and family, and my fellow peaceful planetary inhabitants...
And I don't differentiate between supposed difference "classes" or "ranks" of aggressors...
They aren't going to stop aggressing and forcing and frauding us until we use the same force against them that they are using against the people in the middle east...

Pull, Point, and Press...
Repeat as Necessary...